Something else to ponder. Why would Senator Obama need to raise a Civilian National Security Force and arm it like our Military? What would be the purpose for this?

http://bulletin.aarp.org/states/il/articles/obama_outlines_plan_for_national_service.html

We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
Peachy that is what I thought. My real question is what would the be used for? And for that matter how would you pay for it?
Mavrick if they are not armed how do they become as powerful as the military. All Military power is based on its ability to project fire power (weapons). So I still have a question what will he use it for?

Certainly you don’t believe you can perpetrate endless wars with random victims throughout the world and not increase taxes??? OK, let me break this down for you-it is on the Chinese Credit card, it is why the dollar is so devalued, because you are so heavily borrowed against that the dollar is worthless and more worthless everyday and if you re-elect Bush and start the 100 years of pointless and destructive wars the dollar and the economy will corrode more quickly. In terms of entitlements, they were largely eliminated under Reagan, I know this because I was personally there at St. Elizabeths (as a therapist) when the mentally ill were literally turned into the streets of DC with nothing and no idea of how to fend for themselves. You want to eliminate subsidies for the elderly? Go ahead-start a campaign against the AARP, in facti, I suggest that you start that campaign today in Florida.
When was the last time you heard anyone who is living say free love or groovy, hey man-get a haircut.

I am a 36 year old who recently had a liver transplant that cost over $500,000 and my annual medical maintenance costs will be aproximately $20,000/year for life. My employer based health care plan dropped me, as it relates to transplant care, once they paid $150,000. I am on my own now yet as I continue to work my tax dollars are paying for government officials and prisoners health care. Is it unreasonable to think that I should have at the very least the same health care as the prisoners whom I am paying for. I hope something like this doesn’t happen to any republicans before they can see the light. Those AARP commercials that you see are real.
Obama/Biden 08′

Who hired him? Who was his superviser? Who is the nameless, faceless
person or group who employs these professional rabble rousers? Who
bankrolls them so they can agitate in poor neighborhoods?

I’d love to know so we could follow the money trail back and see where
it leads us. How many cut-outs and front organisations until you get
back to Democrat Party Headquarters?

I’d love to see an FBI or IRS flowchart of all the connections between
mafia controlled labor unions, tax exempt fronts like phony inner city
churches, mosques, environmental and other lobbying groups like AARP,
ACLU, anti-gun groups, PETA, NAMBLA and the rest.

And yet, for all of that, they still can’t manage to run this nation the
way they want. And why not? Because of people like us. And they hate our
guts.

Rusty, at last real information. Thank you very much.

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON
TALKING POINTS
ISSUE JOHN McCAIN BARAK OBAMA
Favors new drilling offshore US Yes No, but might consider
Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it Yes No
Served in the US Armed Forces Yes No
Amount of time served in the US Senate 22 YEARS 143 DAYS
Will institute a socialized national health care plan No Yes
Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy No Yes
Would seek to pull troops out of Iraq immediately No Yes
Supports gun ownership rights Yes No

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase No Yes
Voted against making English the official language No Yes
Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegal aliens No Yes
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales.
(How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
(How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying=2 0nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)

INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax - Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet.
New gasoline taxes.
New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)
New taxes on retirement accounts.
New taxes to pay for socialized medicine.

You can verify the above at the following web sites:
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html
http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

you are in denial that the sources listed show Obama really did read this stuff off the telepromter? wow 1st step–admit you have an addiction 2nd st..
Tax cut to 95% of the people changed to 95% of the working people and now it has CHANGED to those that do community service, military or work, at the speed you countered the truth you didnt check the sources that Obama read from the telepromter–Obama cant beleive what he has been reading,
the truth is before your eyes and you deny it, you people are sad, I hope Obama does win so you can see what por is, I worked for a living so I can watch you grovel like beggers and fight for a crumb of bread–I havent been turned in yet for the truth,,,, the Obamaidiots must be in shock and awe from what Obama read from the telepromter
the reason you dont see reference to middle class is because middle class is a Socialist term–actually is middle/peasant class when it was originally defined by Karl Marx

there was a greater number of trained professional before the Clinton era but they got wiped out by taxes

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS

ISSUE JOHN McCAIN
BARAK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes
No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes
No

Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes
No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS
173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No
Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No
Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No
Yes

Supports gun ownership rights
Yes
No

Supports homosexual marriage
No
Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No
Yes

Voted against making English the official language
No
Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegal’s
No
Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN

(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax

Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS
ISSUE JOHN McCAIN

BARAK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US
JOHN McCAIN Yes
BARAK OBAMA No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
JOHN McCAIN Yes
BARAK OBAMA No

Served in the US Armed Forces
JOHN McCAIN Yes
BARAK OBAMA No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
JOHN McCAIN 22 YEARS
BARAK OBAMA 173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

Supports gun ownership rights
JOHN McCAIN Yes
BARAK OBAMA No

Supports homosexual marriage
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

Voted against making English the official language
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
JOHN McCAIN No
BARAK OBAMA Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

General Electric….NBC censoring Mike Gravel from the Phili press conference…For a while i was loosing faith in the integrity of electoral college but, but why would these war profiteers be so afraid of Gravel getting his word out if the election was hacked? It’s like the speck of yang in the yin. not just GE, but Yahoo!, AARP, and other satan sucklers are trying to silence him. hey that’s a cool aliteration.
ooo chris mathews, the great moral arbitor of our time.
i bet someone has to wipe off his desk every time he finishes a paragraph.

2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
JOHN McCain BARAK OBAMA

The questions below are listed in McCain’s and Obama web sites and other sites that was approved by both.

The list of questions will have a yes or no or another anwer particilar to that question.

Both candidates answered the question and they are listed. To keep it simple the first answer is McCain’s the second answer is Obama.

Then ask yourself the same questions and if their answer is how you would answer then vote for that candidate.

Please know the issues and not because they are cute, black, good speaker, or because your momma and daddy like them or even your best friend… Get a group of people over tonight. Ask these questions to each one…then grade their answer too.

Don’t listen exclusively to Fox or CNN or people with the loudest voice. Know the candidate you are supporting… here is how!.

Take a sheet of paper and write down ( or copy and paste) the following questions. If you don’t know what the question means ASK SOMEONE or if the question does not affect you, (it may in the future)… then ask yourself who would it affect – then go ask them that question?
Then vote the candidate.

Favors new drilling offshore US Yes No
Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it Yes No

Served in the US Armed Forces Yes No
Amount of time served in the US Senate 22 YEARS 173 DAYS
Will institute a socialized national health care plan No Yes
Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy No Yes
Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately No Yes
Supports gun ownership rights Yes No
Supports homosexual marriage No Yes
Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase No Yes
Voted against making English the official language No Yes
Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegal’s No Yes
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites: http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

I am not bias as anyone suspects. If you think I am then read the canidates web site… they answered it. And yes I am for one of the above candidates, but that is for you to choose. But if you don’t care and vote only because someone said they like a candidate then USE YOUR BRIAN!… DON’T LET SOMEONE ELSE THINK FOR YOU!.. EVEN IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE ABOVE QUESTIONS, MAKE UP YOUR OWN QUESTIONS AND GO TO THE RESPECTIVE WEB SITES AND SEE WHAT YOUR CANDIDATE SAYS ON THAT SUBJECT. THEN VOTE FOR THE PERSON YOU…;. Y O U. .. DON’T GET MAD AT THE MESSENGER… I’m just repeating what was said by both candidates.
Sorry I lost my BRAIN… ;)

SIMPLE MATH:

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS

THE ISSUES:

JOHN McCAIN / BARACK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US
JM - Yes
BO - No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
JM - Yes
BO - No

Served in the US Armed Forces
JM - Yes
BO - No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
JM - 22 YEARS
BO - 173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan
JM - No
BO - Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
JM - No
BO - Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
JM - No
BO - Yes

Supports gun ownership rights
JM - Yes
BO - No

Supports homosexual marriage
JM - No
BO - Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
JM - No
BO - Yes

Voted against making English the official language
JM - No
BO - Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
JM - No
BO - Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com /ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washington
SORRY…here’s the right link:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html
Whether it’s been passed around or posted before is not the point, the point is that it’s the truth! It’s up to you what you think is important.
I’m an independent who votes for whomever makes the most sense and rings the truest.